Walmart Worker Trampled to Death in Nassau County, New York

The AP article is a farce. Why aren't hard questions asked like, where were the police?

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An AP news Article today reports the tragic death of a worker at a Walmart store in New York. He was trampled by customers who broke the door frames when they were being opened for business on Friday.

"Criminal charges were possible, but identifying individual shoppers in Friday's video may prove difficult, said Detective Lt. Michael Fleming, a Nassau County police spokesman."

Why is it so darned difficult? Put them on TV, run them, let the public see them. See if someone comes forward. Check the credit slip names of the first five hundred purchases and get pictures of the people who signed the slips. If they tried that hard to get in they didn't leave empty handed! Pull them in for questioning if they will not talk outside. Ask if anyone was with them. See who lawyers-up. This is a homicide investigation, not the theft of a pack of gum. As an aside I consider that wrong but I wouldn't be as aggressive on looking for the perp. This wasn't a crowd that trampled the guy, this was three to five people who knocked him down and went over him. Others probably stepped on him but once the frenzy was there they were being pushed by the crowd. Look at the other workers in the store that were hurt trying to rescue him. Look at the ire when the store was closed. I never go to this kind of thing because I have said for 40 years they are dangerous. Mobs kill!

"Other workers were trampled as they tried to rescue the man, and customers stepped over him and became irate when officials said the store was closing because of the death, police and witnesses said."

But as reprehensible as this is, the police are not without blame. Why do I say that? Look at the statement of the spokesperson.

"This crowd was out of control," Fleming said. He described the scene as "utter chaos," and said the store didn't have enough security.

Really? The store needed more security? This was not a shoplifting or someone getting hostile. This was a mob. Should the store prepare for a homicidal mob? What security would have stopped them? Billy clubs? Mace? Guns? Should store security be armed? If there had been ten armed police there (and there probably should have been with that large of a gathering) could they have prevented this? Were there calls earlier to police, before the store opened? How long after the call did the first officer get on the scene? Was it treated as a priority or was it set to age to see if it would go away? And finally, why hasn't a reporter asked these questions and reported the answers.

I have a scanner and in York City I hear at times the police dispatcher tell an officer this has been aged twenty minutes! The officer is to go and see if the problem has resolved. They are holding a ticket for twenty minutes to see if the problem will go away! Why?

Did someone call before the store opened and complain that the mob was getting unruly and the police took the wait and see attitude? I don't need to know this answer but the people of Nassau County should. I am asking the questions for them. The media should be doing a time line on this, when did each event happen? Why the media? Because they are to be the watchdogs and they are the only ones with the ability to get the information. The police will lawyer-up with their union representatives if it even looks like citizens want to check and make it difficult. The police officials will circle the wagons to defend against attack. All of them will point fingers at Walmart who if you are really honest probably has done nothing significant wrong or left undone anything they could have done. I worked the polls on election day. I saw what I would call a hostile mob at one time during that day. I was concerned. One trigger and it could have easily gotten nasty.

My guess on this is the man who was killed committed one error. He didn't get out of the mob's way in time. That mob was just as dangerous as a herd of stampeding cattle and with about the same mental level. He may have dropped a key or a pen and bent to pick it up. He may have seen something on the floor that could haven been a hazard and bent to pick it up to protect others. We may never know but he paid for that with his life. If you want to see the violence with which this mob was being driven, note that they bent the door frames.

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Comments (4)
#1 by goodselfme
Dec 2, 2008
Terrible event. I have been in a huge crowd. When you are in that situation, you can't go anywhere on your own, the crowd pushes and you go. I tend to think Wal-Mart could have had electric doors, made lottery for the great deals or other remedies that could have prevented this. The savagery won't end until the problem is addressed from the source. I think the stores cause this and some people do not think.Prayers for the family of the man.
#2 by  Ralph Brandt
Dec 2, 2008
Apparently you want to blame this on walmart....
#3 by Clay Hurtubise
Dec 5, 2008
Hmmmm... OK, take this farther, Wal-Mart, Home Depot, and most big box stores have a lot of accidents in them that are preventable. Blame? Have you watched how people show complete disregard for each other even in non-holiday times? We can't make our world safer if we don't take responsibility for our actions.
What most concerns me is the crowd. How does saving a few bucks overwhelm the idea of trying to save a man. Don't blame Wal-Mart, look in a mirror. Human nature. If you want to help stop the madness, stop the mad consumerism. Don't buy gifts this year, have friends over for dinner instead. Ask others not to buy you anything. Bring the holidays to a time of peace and rest. The problem is us, not the company that feeds our insatiable desire to buy stuff.
#4 by  Ralph Brandt
Dec 7, 2008
Clay, I form opinions from FACT. DO Walmart and Home Depot have more preventable accidents? You don't cite them so I am assuming you don't have them either so you are operating out of perception. I haven't looked for statistics but I would be interested in seeing them if someone runs across them.

First, Walmart and Home Depot have more stores and shoppers so they get the press. The unions hate them so they call up their union buddies in the press and have them report heavily. In case you haven't seen it, nearly all of the newspaper reporters, TV reporters and radio reporters carry union cards the same as the UAW and the RCIA. The unions hate Walmart because they haven't been able to unionize it. They have a premise, any workplace that isn't union is screwing the employees. But then the union fat cats have one conflict of interest, if they aren't unionized, they aren't paying union dues... If a person benefits financially I can't expect them to be objective.

And although I think Walmart should take a look at these practices I think others need to look at how we play a part in it.

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